jerome over on discuss the truth has picked up on something interesting.. in the july watchtower on page 28 of the article entitled “winning the battle for your mind” the following statement is made “keep in mind that satan does not want you to think clearly or reason things out well.
because propaganda is likely to be most effective, says one source, if people… are discouraged from thinking critically.”.
the quote comes from a book entitled: “media and society in the twentieth century: a historical introduction by lyn gorman, david mclean" the watchtower however, chose to leave out a portion of the quote.. the full quote is "therefore, it is likely to be most effective if people do not have access to multiple sources of information and if they are discouraged from thinking critically.. the following sentence which the watchtower also decided was best not to include states,.
No - by quoting an outside source it gives the pretence of suggesting that the article is an open and transparent document, supported by secular sources. It provides a faux aura of being serious journalism.
I agree kc99....
That has always been their M.O...... and usually, they do not even give you the title of the book, the author, the page, the paragraph...
Just nebulous pieces of "believe and you will be saved" crap.
do you want to stop religious repression?.
contact .
u.s. commission on international religious freedom .
Interesting that they have an office for that.... good to know, thx.
i just 'liked' the same post 6 times in a row.. what a joke simon.
sort it out!.
Dear op... I think your name says it all ; -)
i understand a lot of you have had experience with different situations but i just need to see if there is anything to shed light on my situation.. i separated from my wife of 13 yrs (been apart for the past 2 now), and left.
this was our second separation.
i couldn't deal with her ways anymore so i chose to leave.
So sorry you are going thru this... Focus on your children, do not let even the "brothers" bully you, by making you go to a judicial hearing.
Build your relationship with your two children (and even your older one if possible) by taking them camping, bowling, arts & crafts, music, all of the things you miss as a J-dub.
They will love being with you, and just may find a way to open their minds to new ideas.... You ARE the other parent, you have just as MUCH a right to raise your children according to YOUR ideas as your wife does. What if you had always been Catholic. Why wouldn't a Catholic father have just as much say as a JW wife? What if she tried to prevent HIM from taking them to church? Both parents have rights. Don't forget that.
That being said, do NOT meet with AN elder, two elders or any "let's just talk" thing.... Nope, don't do it. Don't answer the phone, door, etc...If they DO happen to run into you, tell them you have things you are working thru. You are "depressed", you are "whatever"...... Do not give them details... Sorry....
The minute you go down the rabbit hole, you are a done deal... DF'd.
sheffield 1980s i think.
there was a grassy area that needed mowing to put a collapsible baptismal pool on i think.
there was no mower so they gave a bunch of sisters a pair of scissors each and they went on their knees and snipped away.. only in jehovah's organisation!.
God must be with them if they mowed the lawn with scissors, right?
No one else on earth would be able to accomplish such a feat!
from the east coast of scotland, just north of dundee...... the courier - friday 10 february 2017 - page 8. jehovah’s witness warned court will deliver judgment .
a church figure has been told by a sheriff that the courts will deliver judgment on his domestic offending and not the jehovah’s witness group he is a member of.
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Great idea... not imprisonment, which would put a burden on the tax dollars, but "unpaid work" of 160 hours (reduced from 180 because he he pled guilty) and supervision for 18 months!
The judge also warned him “What I am saying to you very clearly is that this is in effect your third analogous offence and the seriousness is increasing.”
http://www.theherald.com.au/story/4522599/i-was-dead-to-them-how-lara-escaped-the-jehovahs-witnesses-cult/?cs=4173.
'i was dead to them': how lara escaped the jehovah's witnesses 'cult'.
rachel brownemarch 10, 2017. three decades ago jodi*'s family were searching for a better life for themselves and their four children, well away from the gritty inner-city high rise apartment they called home.. the family packed up their belongings and moved to rural victoria where they planned to start anew.. then one morning a pair of jehovah's witnesses knocked on the door to spread the word of the watchtower bible and tract society.
Don't worry DS, I understood what you meant.... It's all in the typing technicalities and communications, right?
http://www.theherald.com.au/story/4522599/i-was-dead-to-them-how-lara-escaped-the-jehovahs-witnesses-cult/?cs=4173.
'i was dead to them': how lara escaped the jehovah's witnesses 'cult'.
rachel brownemarch 10, 2017. three decades ago jodi*'s family were searching for a better life for themselves and their four children, well away from the gritty inner-city high rise apartment they called home.. the family packed up their belongings and moved to rural victoria where they planned to start anew.. then one morning a pair of jehovah's witnesses knocked on the door to spread the word of the watchtower bible and tract society.
Thanks Barbara! I like that she took her energy and put it into a positive action for "change"(.org)
Ms Kaput has launched a campaign on change.org to have charity regulator, the Australian Charities and Not-For-Profits Commission, investigate the organisation.
"This is not an organisation which should have charitable status," she said.
Nor is it a safe organisation for children, the royal commission determined when it handed down its findings into the institution last year.
so a few months ago, a friend sent me an actual copy of finished mystery which was published in 1917 (not a pdf download... the actual book).
i must say, this was the most disturbing book i have ever had the displeasure of reading.
but i only read it because this was the main publication that was being distributed worldwide when jesus supposedly chose the watchtower in 1918 and i basically wanted to see for myself what jesus saw in the wt that would compel him to choose this religious corporation over all other religious denominations.. anyway, if anyone is interested in knowing the actual contents of this book, here are some bullet points i put together from some of the notes i took as i read the book:.
I have only read short sections of this book, and that alone was almost too much to bear. It is a shameful thing, an embarrassment, and most people who are JWs do not know what their entire life structure has been based upon.
Numerology, the whole thing.... numerology.
with all the legalese being tossed around, and the expert manipulation on the part of the wtbts, who can explain why the "two witness" is being perverted by the wtbts?
i don't care if you're a bible believer and want to approach this from a biblical standpoint, or if you simply use logic and reason.
how would you explain this subject to a j-dub, or even a non-dub?.
1. Is there any Bible principle that prohibits somebody in modern day from just "calling the police"?
If you think someone is in your house, going to rob you, does the WT say "You need two witnesses, call Legal Desk, and we'll tell you what to do"?
If you came home, and found your family member murdered, you would call the police.
If someone breaks into a Kingdom Hall, "the first thing you should do is call the police."
There is no rule in the Bible that says you cannot or should not call the police.
There is no rule in the Bible that says elders should disfellowship or shun someone for calling the police.
Robbery is a crime, call the police.
Murder is a crime, call the police.
Child abuse is a crime, call the police.
After that..... after "the superior authorities that you are in subjection to" are notified...... do whatever else you want to do. Want two witness? go for it. Want four? go for it. Do whatever you want to do in your stupid little 'committees' "that God has assigned to you."
Just report the crime...... call the police.
